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  • DarrenFreakinPotter
    Hi~
    DarrenFreakinPotter

    Hi B~ Just wanted to randomly visit your wall to tell you that whenever i see your comments, i feel like there's suddenly a breath of fresh air in the comments. You always (well from what i observed) reply with such eloquence and logical thinking that i can't help but feel enamoured by your replies and posts.

    Sorry for the randomness and good day/night (err, what time is it in Australia?) to you~

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    Hey :) Um, i know we've never spoken before but could you go into Glee chat because there's something i wanna ask you :P

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    Oh wow I love your new avatar! XD

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  • MattTheGleek
    Hello again!
    MattTheGleek

    I've come back from the dead, finally.

    I want to apologize for my sudden dissapearance about three weeks ago (has it really been that long?) and my subsequent absence. I do have to say, with Glee off the air, it really all just slipped away from me. But there's no better time to get into the spirit of Glee than today. :)

    What have I missed? I've been almost completely separated from this fandom, new music aside. To be honest, it was a nice little break, what with the lingering effects of The Breakup.

    And finally, how have you been? I should have asked that sooner, forgive my rudeness.

    p.s. Loving the avatar.

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    • MattTheGleek
      MattTheGleek

      I suppose we have to wait and see what comes out of it. That said, I'll probably end up enjoying the performance. It's obviously no "Man in the Mirror", but like you said, its qualities lie elsewhere; at the very least it has the entertainment factor.

      I'm torn when it comes to that issue, honestly. I equally enjoy both portions of the show, I really do, but it's obvious that this was not the original concept of Glee. Now, concepts can grow and change with time, that's a no-brainer, so if this is what Glee is developing into, I'm perfectly fine with it assuming the show stays as good as it currently is. What I have a problem with is that they are seemingly trying to do both the new kind of Glee and the old concept. Whether or not that's mainly due to the fanbase is not the issue here; the writers and creators will just have to decide which path to choose. Yes, the way Season 4 is working out has been great, but it's a solution that won't make it past the current season. Glee simply cannot stick to this strange hybrid between the original premise/concept and a developing show with an established cast.

      Now, I realize that the tendency for a show to develop beyond its basic premise and original concept is a very natural one and most of the time, it just happens. This kind of development is obviously based on a permanent, established cast. Which is all fine, but as soon as that starts to happen, there is no room for the original concept. I'm sure this is a major dilemma for the show right now, but the solution just cannot be a permanent one.

      As far as personal opinions go, like I said, I'm torn. On one hand, I still enjoy McKinley High, but on the other, I would actually be okay with a full-on shift in the long run. Don't get me wrong, I love Glee and its original concept, while slightly "out there", is something I could handle just fine. However, if I'm being completely honest here, there only is so much that can happen in a high school setting before it gets (for lack of a better word) old. At this point, there are probably just as many musical numbers that occur outside the walls of McKinley as those related to Glee's setting and show choir premise, and dare I say it, they feel just as relevant, too (most of the time, of course). In that sense, I do feel that the essence of Glee, which is obviously the music, could survive without McKinley High serving as its vehicle and still feel natural, still feel like Glee. Furthermore, I find Glee's non-McKinley/show choir-related storylines and musical numbers to be very genuine and natural as far as the core main cast is concerned. As such, I don't find the idea of the "new" kind of Glee all that unappealing, to be honest, and compromising the original premise would feel justified in this case.

      Bottom line, though, like I said, is sticking to one of these options, personal preferences aside.

      Regarding the ratings, Glee's biggest problem could be Fox. They've been known to mercilessly cancel shows with no problem whatsoever, which has included some of their biggest hits. Not to sound paranoid or anything, but if for whatever reason the network execs feel that the current ratings aren't cutting it, Glee might not be given the time to become completely broke, as they very well could axe it come the end of the season.

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    • Thealmightytrebleclef
      Thealmightytrebleclef


      Ah, “Man in the Mirror”, that was a lovely performance, but I thought “ABC” and “Control” were slightly superior. Speaking of which, the Anders have to be careful with how many backing vocalists they use, because in the MITM track, you hear an abundance of female singers, when there is only supposed to be two female ND members on stage, and good lord Anders, Dianna’s introduction to “Control” is supposed to sound like she is performing it live. That is just me being extremely picky though, I thought Sectionals 2011 was absolutely beautiful, though I do wonder how on Earth they managed to perform so well, with so many layers of clothing on.

      As I said before, keeping the graduates there for the sake of viewers is something that I do understand though in saying that, my overall opinion on the concept of the show would probably not exist if it weren’t for the fact that there are still so many stories from characters who we barely know, characters who have been on the show since Pilot. And I perhaps would not have such an opinion on my interpretation of the concept of the show, if it weren’t for the fact that the show still has an established Glee club to write for.

      Look, as much as I dislike the idea of the writers compromising the concept of the show, I guess I cannot argue against the fact that the current hybrid of Lima and NYC is not going to work beyond season four. As hard as it is to admit, however, I’d choose WMHS and Glee club over the graduates. If Degrassi can have new batches of high school students and story lines for over twelve seasons, than surely Glee can too, if we can disregard the fact that Degrassi is nowhere near as popular as Glee (though to be fair, Degrassi did air in my country :P). Also, teenage issues do change from generation to generation, and now that I think about it, the current sophomores and the original characters do actually belong in two generations. The sophomores are Generation Z, whilst the graduates are Gen Y.

      I did state that the reason why I am sceptical with compromising and changing the concept of the show is because of the musical numbers, and how genuine they would appear. One of the things that I found appealing was that the Glee musical numbers were performances from the characters, not merely a string of video clips, regardless of how relevant a song was to the story line. Let’s assume that the writers would throw away WMHS and Glee club entirely, to follow the original characters. Not many of the graduates, apart from the purposes of merely leisure, have a reason to sing. So far this season, the only graduates that can perform something and make it look like a genuine performance were primarily Rachel, Kurt, (given the fact that she works as a back-up singer) Mercedes and (maybe) Santana, and now, Finn. Many fans of Quinn and Dianna are itching for a song from her, but personally, the thought of Quinn at Yale, randomly bursting into song is a little random. The thought of Puck bursting into song while cleaning a pool is not unwelcome, but random. There have been plenty of musical numbers in the past three seasons where they did randomly burst into song, but they were within the walls of WMHS, and they still belonged in the Glee club.

      Let me discuss a few musical examples from this season that involved the graduates:

      “Don’t Speak”- I adore the song and the cover to the point where both versions of the song is the most played on my phone. The song itself was relevant to the story line, but the way that it was done on the show did evoke some laughter out of me upon initial viewing (followed by a wave of sadness), and it was just a video clip. Randomly bursting into the song in the middle of Battery Park is one thing, singing the song, while choosing the wrong the time to share a bed with your significant other, is another.

      “The Scientist”- Again, brilliant song choice, brilliant song, brilliant cover, had relevance to the story line, though the authenticity of the performance is something that I also question, due to Kurt’s presence. I don’t know whether or not he had a reason for returning, because I’m sure he wouldn’t travel back to Lima just to perform and stand next to his now ex-boyfriend who recently committed infidelity.

      Finn’s part in “Barely Breathing”- Appropriate song choice, sung by the appropriate characters, though Blaine’s visual performance felt more authentic than Finn’s. Blaine was in the auditorium and choir room after all, Finn was supposedly singing in the middle of Rachel’s class. The authenticity (or lack thereof) of it, IMO, speaks for itself.

      I guess that my concern is that by compromising the original concept of the show (which, at this point, would probably make most Gleeks extremely happy); the authenticity of the musical numbers may be compromised as well, which would be a shame considering the fact that what I initially found appealing about Glee, was the music. I don’t doubt the possibility of the writers producing lovely story lines for graduates, if they decide to take that route, but there are only so many episodes a la Grey’s Anatomy’s Musical one, where characters are randomly bursting into song, without it appearing to be, forgive me for the phrase, slightly lame.

      Look, the truth of the matter is that Glee, at the moment, is not willing to compromise anything, and as you have said, the producers have to make a choice, and they a. don’t have a lot of time to make that choice, or b. will not have that choice if the ratings don’t pick up anytime soon. At the moment, it is unclear where the writers want to go post Season Four. The writers have slowly been allowing the viewers to get used to the fact that the graduates are graduates, while simultaneously recruiting new actors and characters for the show choir itself to have a story line.

      Let’s hope that whatever the final season of Glee may be, that it would allow itself to run for an entire season rather than an incomplete one, and if this is the last one, then so be it.

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  • BellaKlaine
    Klaine Kurtofsky
    BellaKlaine

    After reading your most recent comments on the post re: Karofsky's potential return to Glee, I just wanted to add a couple of comments of my own. I thought it would be more appropriate to do this away from the main page as I don't believe in airing specific issues in a public forum.

    In no "shape or form" did I feel that you were reprimanding me for the comment I posted on a possible "Kurtofsky" union. The reason I responded in the way that I did was that while your comment in this instance may have been flippant, the implication was that what you "failed to see" indicated a sense of superiority over those who believed otherwise. I actually quite frequently find myself agreeing with many of the things you say but in your comment here and in comments elsewhere, whereas you may feel you are expressing a qualified and educative opinion, you can sometimes come across as being rather patronising. Ordinarily, I wouldn't have bothered to respond to your second comment (which you yourself termed as "a rant") at all but there was something in it which I found quite upsetting, not so much on my behalf but on the behalf of others, specifically one other and I just couldn't let it slide. It is because of this that I also wrote what I did above.

    There surely are some people who watch Glee just or primarily for Klaine. I myself fall into the latter category. There are also clearly those who are hyper sensitive to the point of being over sensitive regarding comments which have even the vaguest reference to Klaine and here I'm sure you know who I'm talking about. My point is that there was absolutely no need whatsoever to call Adam out on his perceptions of Klaine. The very fact that we're commenting on a Wiki page about a fictional couple shows that we're all a little too invested in what happens between them. However to say in such a public forum that you found it "incredibly irritating" he should react in such a way to stories that bear little or no relation to Klaine was an opinion that could and (in my opinion) should have been kept to yourself. It isn't healthy to be oversensitive but that particular part of your self termed "rant" served no purpose other than to allow yourself to vent. It actually appeared unnecessarily mean and rather insensitive.

    I am well aware that the opinions I have expressed here are my own and may or may well not be shared by others. I am also well aware that Adam would be quite able to defend himself should he choose to do so. However I spoke up on this occasion because a) I do think the way you referenced Adam's comments was unfair, b) because whether or not it is my place to do so, if I see a comment in a public forum that denigrates another person - whether intentionally or unintentionally, it makes me feel uneasy to the point where I feel if I don't speak up, I am somehow complicit in the act of belittling and c) because sometimes the little things matter.

     

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      Bella, please note that before you read what I have to say, that you are someone that I do genuinely respect, and enjoy conversing with you on the Klaine page, and that I do hope that you consider me to be someone who is worth conversing with.

      The point that I (admittedly, harshly) attempted to make was that it is incredibly silly to react the way he did, because, realistically, the chances of a Kurtofsky reunion is incredibly slim. I think it's safe to assume that neither of them are remotely aware of where each other are currently located. 

      I am not calling him, or anybody else, for caring about Klaine, or the show, much more than necessary, as I would be a huge hypocrite (which I have been guilty of numerous times). I, unfairly, called him out for reading, and interpreting, every single Glee-related article, and react to piece of small information that has the very slightest threat (in this case, none at all) to Klaine. This is something that I find that Finchelettes are notorious for. I, myself, am a somewhat closeted Finchel shipper (and at times, extremely ashamed to be one due to their fans), but how Gleeks only look at the show through Finchel goggles is quite beyond me, and to be very honest, I heavily dislike the idea that Klainers are perhaps not that different. It is one thing to have a reaction, and an opinion about a couple that you ship with all your heart. It’s another thing to have an outburst on something that have very little chance of being a threat to a couple that you ship, or watch the show through [insert ship here] goggles.

      And regarding to my disapproval of being committed to a television show solely due to a romantic relationship between two people of your choice, I’m sorry, but regardless of how many people I may offend by having this mindset, it firmly stands. I’m aware that Glee attracts viewers for Buddha-knows-how-many reasons, and Klaine is undeniably one of them, but there is just so much more to the show than a relationship between two young and incredibly handsome men. I won’t attempt to convince you otherwise, but I just personally find that there is so much more to this show than just Klaine, or romantic relationships in general.  Call, or refer to me, as the Gary Barlow of the Klaine fandom, if you will (though I can assure you that my manners are superior to his on the X-factor, though then again, I’m not the one who is currently mourning the loss of my daughter). The show is a musical dramedy about a high school show choir, not an American musical version of Love Actually (which, may I add, is a film that I thoroughly enjoy), and contrary to popular belief, is definitely not the Finchel show.

      Regarding the fact that I "fail to see" how DK's possible return to the show would affect Klaine, as patronising as it may sound, I genuinely do fail to see how one goes from 'There is a possibility that Max Adler may be returning to reprise his role as David Karofsky' to ''Why is this writer insinuating that DK is going to come in between Klaine. What an impossibly dim-witted writer!!!', where the writer does not even mention Klaine in that particular snippet. 

       

      Look Bella, being patronising and condescending, whenever I choose to post a comment directly at Adam (I’m quite certain that he is older than I am anyway, though that is obviously not the point) is not my intention, and I don’t consider it to be an achievement, when I do, which is obviously something that you agree with. This isn’t the first time that I have reacted that way towards him either, you may want to check my message on his wall (I’m not sure whether he has deleted it or not) from quite some time ago, and it was not pleasant for me to type, or for him to read. He and I don’t see eye to eye on very much, despite the fact that we belong in the same fandom, and this is why:

       

      I am in no way, a pessimist, but I prefer to see situations in a more realistic point of view, and I normally would not allow my feelings to get in the way of my judgment, and Klaine is not an exception to that rule whatsoever. As much as I love Klaine, this couple does not mean to me anywhere near as much as it means to Adam. Klaine is his source of comfort, it’s a way for him to escape, something that he has explicitly informed me himself. It is probably a rather simple case of him thinking with his heart, and me thinking with my brain, which is not intended to be an insult.  

       

      I may attempt to be mindful of the way I respond to Adam (and perhaps put more effort into that in the future), but other than that, am I aware that I may sometimes come across as patronising? Yes. I have, in the past, reprimanded a user who has a position of authority on this wiki, for her spelling and punctuation (which, in hindsight, is probably just lack of proof reading). I have reprimanded another user who has a position of authority on this wiki for his attitude. I probably have told off an admin for not taking one of my complaints seriously.

       

      Once upon a time, the Glee wiki was a place of cyber civilisation, where it was unacceptable to express intense hatred of any character, and ironically, this was during the time where this wikia was under dictatorship (that, Bella, is not an exaggeration). Now that that period is gone, the comments on episode pages have been appalling (to the point where, as I have stated previously, I would have a higher chance of having a pleasant conversation with the members of the Westboro Baptist Church, than a significant portion of Glee wiki users), so unfortunately, my method of communication on this wikia has changed. I hope it is not considered arrogant of me to state that I am extremely capable of civilised conversation, and that my comments are, in comparison to the comments on episode pages, rather tame.

       

      Bella, you are well within your rights to defend someone and speak up, should you feel that they are in dire need of it. I apologise for appearing to be petulant when I say this, but you are not in the position to do is to tell me what to keep to myself. Reprimand me all you want for the delivery of the opinion, but not for my choice to share the opinion itself. Expressing an unpopular opinion is not violation of the right to express it. It is unfair how I said what I said to him. It is not, however, unfair of me to say it.  If a person is well within their rights to express their opinion, in what I feel is frivolous manner, than I am well within my right to question it.

       

      Also, I’m sorry that what I said on the Klaine page is something that was irrelevant to the topic at hand, but as harsh as I was, I just wanted to be reasonable, and that was my overall purpose. I can assure you that what I do take the time to type has purpose.

       

      I’m going to end it here. 

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    • BellaKlaine
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      Well that was quite some message. As to whether I am in a position to tell you what you should and should not keep to yourself, of course I'm not.  However there are ways and means of expressing an opinion without belittling someone else and if you have neither the time or the inclination to put your opinions across in a less insensitive way, then you run the risk of giving people the wrong idea about you.  That's why I said  it could or would be better to keep your opinions to yourself, both for your own sake and that of the person/s you risk offending. It doesn't matter what you have to say to someone, however benevolent the message and/or the intention, if you don't couch the message in the right way, you are never going to get through to them.

      That aside, I completely agree with everything you've said.  

      It honestly bothers me too about the way some shippers relate to Glee.  Glee for me is about escapism and if it stops being fun altogether, I'll stop watching.  Not in a hissy fit "they broke up my OTP so I'm going to hate tweet RIB etc" kind of way but in a "life's too short to do something that isn't fun any more" kind of way.  I do sometimes (metaphorically) shake my head in wonderment at the attitude and antics of some of the more hardcore shippers because more than anything, it must really kill their enjoyment of the show to be constantly worrying and interpreting (or misinterpreting) every tidbit of information that comes their way.  

      That said, I am more interested in the side of the show that's more about romantic relationships (an American version of "Love Actually" if you will...) than the mechanics of an American High School Show Choir. I don't know if I ever told you but my mother's an opera singer.  When I was growing up I travelled quite a lot with her when she was performing and at that age, I was never interested in how the show was put together, how costumes were chosen or how the acts were structured.  I was all about the stories and the music and the passion.  To me, "shipping" (and I have to admit I do cringe rather at that expression) a couple, like I do Klaine is not too dissimilar to having a favourite aria within an opera.  You love the opera as a whole but you can't help but have a favourite part that you look forward to most of all. 

      As for Adam, I don't disagree with you at all in your perception of him, just in the way you addressed your concerns.  Glee is a form of escapism for me but neither it nor Klaine is a source of comfort and that's where I think I would have more in common with you than perhaps Adam.  It's fun to speculate on what might happen to Klaine within the context of Glee but while I would probably always err on the side of optimism (because that's just the way I am), I would also always base my opinions on evidence rather than instinct.  

      I actually avoid the episode page wikis for Glee now for much the same reasons as you do.  Furthermore, if I didn't find you entirely capable of civilised conversation, I would never have attempted to address the situation with you as I did.

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    • Thealmightytrebleclef
      Thealmightytrebleclef

      Don't worry, this will be short. 

      I do genuinely thank you for expressing concern over the way I communicate for both myself and the person that I communicate with. The risk of offending someone is indeed a concern, but (as cliche as this sound) people's perception of me is something that I have not particularly cared too much about for a rather long period of time, especially on a public internet forum like this one, for which I have been a user close to one and a half years now. 

      I'm fully aware that there are oversensitive users out there, which means that I should probably not be so blunt, but in all honesty, anything I say can be interpreted as a personal attack on someone. I am not going to reword every single thing that I say every single time due to the fact that I may risk offending someone, nor am I going to hesistate from informing a user that I feel that they are being quite unreasonable. I do enough of that in my personal life, because I am a part-time private instrumental teacher to children under the age of ten. Yes, I have the responsibility of communicating with someone in a manner that does appear to be insensitive and condescending, but the fact that there are some users out here who possess very little backbone is not something that I am responsible for. 

      On a different note, I am aware that your mother is an opera singer, and I am incredibly envious of your exposure to professional performing arts from a young, and this is due to the fact that I, myself, am a Performing Arts student myself. 

      I'm going to leave it here, I am an exam needs to be completed. Have a pleasant day. 

       

       

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    I've been lurking in this wiki for a long time now, and can I just say that every time I see a post of yours, I imagine Stewie saying it. It's always so hilarious!

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  • MattTheGleek
    Hey :)
    MattTheGleek

    Can I just say I didn't recognize you at first without your Jim Parsons avatar? There I was, reading a well-written comment, and then when I saw it was you, I realized that you'd changed it. :)

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    • MattTheGleek
      MattTheGleek

      I don't personally mind said adjustments as long as they don't get in the way of what made the material appealing in the first place. As long as it's not too compromising just for the sake of fitting a more mainstream image, I can live with it. And, while I'm not one to judge based on personal opinions either, I do have to say Kevin Reilly's assessment of the WSS arc didn't sit right with me. I'm not saying it was perfect, but I do think it was a solid arc overall and what bothered me was how outright his dislike was. Putting the fact that Fox often hinders Glee in its natural path as it is aside, I just believe that, regardless of one's personal preference, there have clearly been certain arcs in the past three years that deserve that kind of criticism to a larger extent than the WSS arc, not to mention the fact that personal taste should not make a difference as long as something fits with the nature of the show (and, like you indicated, works well when invoked).

      I'm not anti-mainstream, but that's mostly because I don't care about it in the first place. To me, if something works well and I like it for what it is, it doesn't matter if it's mainstream or not. That's why I prefer when a TV show (or any form of entertainment, for that matter) stays true to its natural style, regardless of whether or not that makes it mainstream. I just don't think the "level" of mainstream is a quality that matters in its own right.

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    • Thealmightytrebleclef
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      My judgment of the WSS arc may be blinded due to my love for the musical (it is not one of my favourites though) and its incredibly rich orchestral score, but I adored every single moment of the arc and I cannot fault any musical number, vocally, or the overall performance. The entire WSS arc was something that, IMO, practically screamed 'Glee!'. Pardon me for stating something so extreme, but I truly believe that the entire 'Glee' cast could put on a successful, and professional production of said musical and perform the entire thing, and the amount of money I'd actually pay to see it is just...I have no words. One thing I would say about the WSS is that I actually wished 'Glee' would have used that to address the issue of race, as much as they used WSS as an extention of love stories of Klaine and Finchel, but that's an extremely minor complaint.

      I still find it difficult to believe that Kevin Reilly and FOX would think that his "less showtunes, more commerical pop" mentality would actually make a significance to the ratings. It is no secret that Ryan Murphy's musical encyclopedia is enormous, so that fact that FOX is hinders RM's chances to fully use it is quite upsetting, as a huge music enthusiast.

      I apologise for these incredibly short messages. Sleep awaits!

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    You know, if you would've just let me vent. I would've gone over it, believe it or not. So instead of acting like a douche and telling you to fuck off once again, I'll just apologize for telling you off. Alright?

    I'm sorry.

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    Hey B

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    Hey, I saw your comment on "The Break-Up" page saying you stopped shipping Brittanna a long time ago. I also stopped shipping them and I was just curious as to why you stopped? :)

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    • Thealmightytrebleclef
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      I don't dislike Brittana as a couple. I just don't ship them anymore, for the following reasons:

      a. Writers and Fans

      The fact of the matter is that Brittana only exists because fans wanted them to be, and that's not a good thing whatsoever, and something that annoys me to no end. I mean, FFS, people were beginning to ship them after ONE accidental sex comment from Brittany. Not to mention that the writers said that they were "thinking of letting Brittany and Santana kiss" during the Comic Con 2010, and for what legitimate reason? None whatsoever!

      The establishment and story lines of Wemma, Finchel, and Klaine were story lines that were carefully planned before fans began to ship them and it shows. Brittana, on the otherhand, weren't, but the writers created the story line of Brittana because a. Fans. and b. The opportunity seemed to present itself after a while.

      I don't believe that the writers a. Really had a romantic Brittana in mind to begin with, and b. Really invest into their story line that much. I rooted for them, but if the writers don't appear to give a c**p about them, then why the hell should I?

      b. The ones who portray Brittana.

      Naya's acting is absolutely spot on, and I believe everything she does or says. However, I can't really say the same for Heather. I understand that Heather has not done any acting prior to 'Glee', and I understand that semi-monotonic (don't think that is a word) delivery is both Brittany's, and Heather's style, but Heather's delivery of anything meaningful can be really dry. Don't get me wrong, Heather is a talented woman, but I don't care what Ian Brennan says, acting classes would really benefit her if she does act once she finishes 'Glee'.

      c. Would I date any of them, regardless of age, gender, sexuality, and the fact that they're both fictional?

      This may sound absolutely ridiculous, but all the couples that I ship, 'Glee', or otherwise, would feature at least one person that I would date. Here are a few couples that I do ship:

      Monica and Chandler: I'd date Chandler.

      Ross and Rachel: I'd date both of them

      Finchel: I'd date Rachel :P, not Finn.

      Klaine: I'd date Blaine.

      For Brittana, as sweet and lovely as I really do find them together, I wouldn't date Brittany or Santana, because I'd actually prefer to date someone who as a better sense of reality, and I'd actually prefer to date someone who does not have the tendency to bite off other people's heads :P

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      Thanks for replying so soon! I myself don't ship them because of Heather's acting and that they were just put together because of fans, as you said. :)

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